Whose Jerusalem? Whose Land is it?

 

All this is an inappropriate issue for any serious, honest discussion for it all now all belongs to Jesus Christ the Messiah who is no longer a Jew or a gentile! The Jews or the Palestinians thus as well have no biblical claim to this land any longer.

(Acts 1:11 KJV)  Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
 
(Psalm 133:1 KJV)  A Song of degrees of David. Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
 
(Mat 19:19 KJV)  Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
 
It is God's clear will that these brothers, the sons of Abraham  the Jews and Palestinians live together in peace in the same land as well...   or anywhere esle too.
 
Obviously again the Jews and the Palestinians both very unreasonably really do not want real peace, they only wrongfully seem to want to escalate the wars and to drag the rest of us into them..
 
I support rightfully neither group of these groups  in their unholy wars or in their land claims now too and would also ask rightfully still that the both sides to show some love decency, restraints towards each now still too.

In reality neither side can claim any further ownership of the Land of Israel, not the Jews and not the Palestinians because it now belongs to the only rightful heir, Jesus himself.

Supposedly Professing Christian and even Judaic scholars would have all of us, and you, to personally believe that the Old Testament Bible references to Jerusalem, Israel still do prophetically apply today, and in the future, that they will also all be fully fulfilled as well particularly in reference to the re-establishment of the nation of Israel too, and Jerusalem as a world. religious center.

So many false Biblical scholars still do like to present a one side or a distorted Bible interpretations of Israel's land rights.. they really do like to twist non relevant, out of date Bible verses to say that Israel is unconditionally entitled to own the whole land of Israel, with borders from the Nile to the Euphrates river.. whereas in fact the possession of this land  it was still a conditional promise.. they failed to live up to the conditions. The conditional on Old  Israel obeying  God in all things... not just those things of their own choice.. Old Israel had not lived up to God's conditions for possessing the land, so it did not even acquire all of it firstly too. The New Israel, which is the body of Christ, the church has no territorial land ambitions rightfully  still... not even in the future.

It is very  sad that these false Biblical expositors do still take verses out of context, even disregarding the clear verses mentioned in the rest of the Bible as well. Yet it is also an undeniable fact that neither Jesus, nor any of his apostles next had confirmed their supposed  truths at all in the New Testament, not even once the reestablishment of the nation of Israel.   It is not the first time the Jewseven  have been trying to do their own thing. When they the Jews had left Egypt they even built a golden calf, idol. The Jews even today  are thus trying to rebuild the nation of Israel in their own strength, without God's approval, without Jesus Christ's help too and thus are causing much unnecessary and undesirable conflicts in the process as well. (John 15:5 KJV)  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. 6  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

 
"And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them." Exodus 25:8
 
"And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God." Revelation 21:3
 
Warning:(2 Sam 6:6 KJV)  And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it. 7  And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzzah; and God smote him there for his error; and there he died by the ark of God.
 
Because all of the   tents and temples that God ordained were intended to be a means of grace, and a revelation of His presence in the midst of His people, whenever the purpose of the temple was, is  perverted to mean something that man had built "for the glory of God," God did not, does not  hesitate to forsake it.  (Isa 66:1 KJV)  Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? 2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
 
Fact one: Jesus himself clearly denied that he himself was coming to restore the land, the nation of Israel.
 
(John 18:36 KJV)  Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
 
(Acts 1:6 KJV)  When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
 
Fact two: The true  Apostles also did not work towards, support the  restoration of  the land, the nation of Israel, and only the unfaithful apostle Judas did.
 
Fact three: There is not one single New Testament reference to indicate the present, future restoration of the land, the Nation of Israel as well.
 
Fact four: The possession of the land of Israel by the Jews was conditional on obeying and following after God
 
(Gen 26:1 KJV)  And there was a famine in the land, beside the first famine that was in the days of Abraham. And Isaac went unto Abimelech king of the Philistines unto Gerar.  2  And the LORD appeared unto him, and said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of: 3  Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father; 4  And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; 5  Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. 6  And Isaac dwelt in Gerar:
 
Num 14:23-24 Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it: But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land where into he went; and his seed shall possess it. 
 
Fact five: God has replaced the old testament, covenant with a new testament, covenant which is the Covenant now solely with his Church.
 
Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: 9: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. 10: For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
 
(Heb 10:16 KJV)  This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17  And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18  Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. 19  Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20  By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; 21  And having an high priest over the house of God; 22  Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water. 23  Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
 
(Mat 22:2 KJV)  The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3  And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4  Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. 5  But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6  And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. 7  But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8  Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9  Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10  So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11  And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12  And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.  13  Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14  For many are called, but few are chosen.
 
(Rom 3:29 KJV)  Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
 
(Gal 3:16 KJV)  Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
 
(John 20:31 KJV)  But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
 
(Mat 23:38 KJV)  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.39   For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. (Mat 10:34 KJV)  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.  35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36  And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. (Heb 12:2 KJV)  Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
 
(Acts 20:  KJV)  20  And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have showed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house, 21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
 
(Acts 26:20 KJV)  But showed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
 
The original Apostles of Jesus  themselves taught that Jesus was the promised Jewish Messiah and they looked forward to a heavenly Jerusalem. 
 
(Acts 2:22 KJV)  Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23  Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24  Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. 25  For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved: 26  Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope: 27  Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. 28  Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance. 29  Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30  Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
 
(Rev 3:12 KJV)  Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
 
(Rev 21:2 KJV)  And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3  And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4   And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
 
(Rev 21:10 KJV)  And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God.
 
Being a true Jewish includes accepting  the true God and his true religion from the start to the end. The majority of Christians have often accepted the fact that Jesus of Nazareth--the founder of their religion, their Messiah, as the Jewish Messiah too, and the second part of the Trinitarian God--was God himself  and thus not only was a  Christian but indisputably a Jew  as well, and now so were his followers. The sole basis of the Christian faith, which is why it is also  called the New Testament as well is not at all the Old Testament Judaism but the New testament Jesus. The true Christians next always left their Jewish Synagogues all together... and all Christian Jews, Messianic Jews too need to do this today as well, also supposed to give up their Jewish roots, Jewish culture, Jewish religion  when they accept Jesus Christ as their master, lord and savior . some clerics, theologians, and scholars have worked hard to recover the historical Jewish Jesus. why?  Ironically this was aided also by the Jews, Judiazers, false christians   themselves who falsely wanted it seems  to promote their own self importance, value of the now rather false, obsolete judaic religion, and it's the false observation of the letter of the law over the spirit of the law.
 
(Acts 20:29 KJV)  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. 30   Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.31   Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.  (1 Tim 4:1 KJV)  Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
 
(John 19:30 KJV)  When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. (Mat 27:50 KJV)  Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51  And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52  And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,53   And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.54  Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
 
(Gal 3:23 KJV)  But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. . 24  Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25  But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26  For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27  For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28  There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29  And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
 
(2 Cor 5:17 KJV)  Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.  18  And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19  To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 20  Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 21  For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
 
Jesus- Christianity- a religion starting in Judaism and then moving away from it on it's own  or also initially  kicked out of it by the false Jews?  serving God's purpose still.
 
(Gal 2:16 KJV)  Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
 
Sadly the Jewish Religion, Nation issue is part of the biggest religious deceptions we all do face in life, and  this now has been true now for thousand of years where  Jewish people have lied about the importance of their Judaic religion  daily to us and they also have lied about the facts of Christianity, God's will  as well to others.
 
The predicted Old Testament restoration of the tabernacle of David is foremost actually the New Testament personal Baptism of the Holy Spirit, Pentecostalism, the restoration of the personal method of the worship of God. (John 4:23 KJV)  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth and not a nationalistic empire building.
 
"And He shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began." (Acts 3:20-21) "…Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." (Luke 21:24) "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part if happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob."   Romans 11:25-26, 
 
Some persons would say that Jesus' supposedly  implied that although the time of favour for Israel was at that moment to pass over to the Gentiles, there next would be a time when God would restore again the "kingdom to Israel." This idea still is rather is an unsubstantiated  assertion, directly not supported  in the New Testament. There is not one direct verse that says the Nation of Israel will be restored next in the New testament. Not one! Why? The Old Testament Jewish system was only a shadow of the New Testament Christian system, for  the Old Testament system  was done away with next as well. Some people even still wrongfully are  trying to hang on to the past, and make it now very important again too. Rather we may  and must rightly understand the things of God. (2 Tim 2:15 KJV)  Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
 
Too many people preach falsehoods because of their ignorance of the Bible firstly, and their listening to the lies of the devil.. They neglect the too obvious words of the Bible too.
 
(Amos 8:1 KJV)  Thus hath the Lord GOD showed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit.  2  And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more. 3  And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence. 4  Hear this, O ye that swallow up the needy, even to make the poor of the land to fail, 5  Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit? 6  That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; yea, and sell the refuse of the wheat? 7  The LORD hath sworn by the excellency of Jacob, Surely I will never forget any of their works. 8  Shall not the land tremble for this, and every one mourn that dwelleth therein? and it shall rise up wholly as a flood; and it shall be cast out and drowned, as by the flood of Egypt. 9  And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day: 10  And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the end thereof as a bitter day. 11  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: 12  And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it. 13  In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst. 14  They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again. 9:1  I saw the Lord standing upon the altar: and he said, Smite the lintel of the door, that the posts may shake: and cut them in the head, all of them; and I will slay the last of them with the sword: he that fleeth of them shall not flee away, and he that escapeth of them shall not be delivered. 2  Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down: 3  And though they hide themselves in the top of Carmel, I will search and take them out thence; and though they be hid from my sight in the bottom of the sea, thence will I command the serpent, and he shall bite them: 4  And though they go into captivity before their enemies, thence will I command the sword, and it shall slay them: and I will set mine eyes upon them for evil, and not for good. 5  And the Lord GOD of hosts is he that toucheth the land, and it shall melt, and all that dwell therein shall mourn: and it shall rise up wholly like a flood; and shall be drowned, as by the flood of Egypt. 6  It is he that buildeth his stories in the heaven, and hath founded his troop in the earth; he that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name. 7  Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir? 8  Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD. 9  For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. 10  All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us.
 
(Amos 9:11 KJV)  In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:  12  That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this. 13  Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt. 14  And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. 15  And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
 
and what is the promised restoration of the tabernacle of David now? The restoration of the nation of Israel? the  Temple worship in Jerusalem? or what? what does God say it is?
 
(Acts 2:29 KJV)  Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30  Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
 
(Acts 13:22 KJV)  And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.23  Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
 
What can be more clearer than this the restoration of the tabernacle of David it is the personal salvation of any of the Jews by Jesus Christ. It is certainly not the supposedly promised restoration of the nation of Israel, or the restoration of the earthly temple rituals in Jerusalem.
 
2 Sam 6:14 KJV)  And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.1 5  So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.
 
The personal baptism of the Holy Spirit expereince is the restoration of the tabernacle of David.. where Holy Spirit anointed, filled King David as a result DANCED before the Lord in praises.. the people not HOLY SPIRIT filled can tend to see only the restoration of the nation of Israel, the temple  and wrongfully too not the singing and the praises to God, worship side. Not a coincident that the anti holy spirit fundamentals, persons cannot see this truth too and tend to support as a  result the error filled,  WRONG dispensationalist, Jewish based theology.
 
(Isa 44:18 KJV)  They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; and their hearts, that they cannot understand.
 
There is also no need for another temple now as well for we now have direct access to God again... (Mat 27:51 KJV)  And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52  And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,  (Rev 21:10 KJV)  And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,... 22  And I saw no temple herein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

Abraham, He was looking for the city, Jerusalem the true city of God is a heavenly one firstly.. being next built in our hearts for a start. (Heb 11:8 KJV)  By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

"Trust in the LORD with all our heart  and lean not on our own understanding" (Prov 3:5).

Lean not on your own flesh even for your own understanding, doctrines..

Psalm 134:1-3 Behold, bless ye the LORD, all ye servants of the LORD, which by night stand in the house of the LORD. Lift up your hands in the sanctuary, and bless the LORD. The LORD that made heaven and earth bless thee out of Zion.

"I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight" (Lk. 10:21).

Humans  have a spirit originally fashioned after God’s image, which  has a vacuum because it is capable of God-consciousness and of divine fellowship. And this image was defaced by Sin. It is  restored in accepting personally the finished work on the cross of Jesus Christ and there will be personally as a result an ever-increasing unfolding of His will, and an ever-expanding revelation of His glory.  It is a  constant growth in the realm of the Spirit until we are able to "comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; and to KNOW the love of Christ, which PASSETH KNOWLEDGE" until we are "filled with [or, unto] ALL THE FULNESS OF GOD" (Eph. 3:18-19). It is entering into and appropriating the inheritance which God has already given us,  the promsied land, to take hold upon and apprehending that very thing for which God has laid hold upon and apprehended us! God is still the  One Who is looking for a "home" in which He might dwell, in a people whom He has created for His own glory, wrongfully thought by many to be something too far-out, and not for today. The Baptism of the Holy Spirit  experienced  at Pentecost... the initial  baptism of the first Church, it’s  also  for us to experience as individuals today promsied and given to us  by the "Living word" today also. Did not Apostle Paul himself clearly identify the life we have in the Holy Ghost, and the good Word of God, with the powers of the next world?… and assure us that we are now actually partaking of the "powers of the world to come" (Heb. 6:4-5)

"And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them." Exodus 25:8

"Martha was surprised that Jesus would spend so much time just talking to Mary, when He knew there was so much work to be done; and Mary should have been helping her--helping her to serve the Lord who had come to visit them. But Jesus told her plainly that Mary had chosen the better part, and that no one was to take this portion from her.  He Jesus took Evidently greater delight in fellowshipping with Mary, than He did in Martha’s efforts to prepare Him a good meal. Now the Marthas  too often they do not recognize what God really desires, and how He intends to accomplish the things that need to be done in the earth. For truly God’s plan is not merely to "get the job done." He is creating a people that will be to the praise of His glory. And this can only come about as they submit to His Word and Spirit, and become vitally one with Christ Himself; and consequently one with His many brethren. What instruments and resources God may use from time to time and from one generation to another in working out His purposes in the earth are really quite incidental. He has shown us clearly that the world will know and believe only when God has a people "sanctified" unto the will of the Father, and made one with the Lord Jesus, as He is one with the Father. (Jn. 17:17-21.) 

"My soul, wait thou only upon God;  For my expectation is from him" (Ps. 62:5).

"Our soul waiteth for the LORD: He is our help and our shield" (Ps. 33:20).

"Praise waiteth for thee, O God, in Sion" (Ps. 65:1).

"Blessed are all they that wait for him" (Isa. 30:18).

"For the vision is yet for an appointed time...Though it tarry, wait for it" (Hab. 2:3). 

"They that wait upon the LORD Shall renew their strength" (Isa. 40:31).

"And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God." Revelation 21:3

He was looking for the city, Jerusalem the true city of God is a heavenly one firstly.. being next built in our hearts for a start. "…he was looking for the city… whose architect and builder is God" Heb 11:10

Paul's warning for each of us to "take heed how he builds" is to be heeded.  ( 1 Cor 3:10  According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11  For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12  Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13  Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14  If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15  If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 16  Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17  If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. 18  Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise. 19  For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. 20  And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. 21  Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;)

"They soon forgat his works;  They waited not for his counsel" (Ps. 106:13)

For  Man still has a propensity to build false things. For not all building is of God. This is reflected also in the first human community at Babel when they said, (  ''Come, let us build ourselves a city…so that we may make a name for ourselves… ." Gen 11:4 ) Many today are also building ­false  ministries, churches, networks, movements, and denominations, but they still are not building the true city of God. (Mat 15:14 KJV  Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.) Rather than building themslves a false  name they need to build  God's kingdom which is somethign else and at a level higher  altogether. They also do need to remember that "  Everything that can be shaken will be shaken, so that only the unshakeable will remain ( Heb 12:25-29   See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26  Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27  And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. 28  Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: 29  For our God is a consuming fire.)

What about Abraham who also failed to wait upon God to keep his promise to give him a son?
 
Too many persons are still involved with the outward presentations, the  packaging rather than the substance. They are playing  " Gods", "Church" and not really connecting  with the head of the church, they are reading  the Bible and still really do know the author, and  do you  also "worship" and not really commune with the One worshipped.  ''Though seeing, they do not see;   though hearing, they do not hear or understand."   In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:  "'You will be ever hearing but never understanding;   you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.'" Mtt 13:13-14 and "You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.' But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked." Rev 3:17  in fact, you are deceived, or seduced?

John said, "… the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him." 1 Jn 2:27

(Psa 131:2 KJV)  Surely I have behaved and quieted myself, as a child that is weaned of his mother: my soul is even as a weaned child. 3  Let Israel hope in the LORD from henceforth and for ever.

"Wait, I say, on the LORD" (Ps. 27:14). For "he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ" (Phil. 1:6).

Without a personal direct current revelation of Christ and ­ without firect intimacy ­with Christ  the church, by definition, cannot be the church. It may be the institution that calls itself "the church", but it is not the church or the city that Jesus said would even overcome the gates of hell! 

"Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore. For here we do not have an enduring city, but we are looking for the city that is to come." Heb 13:13-14

God's blueprint involves also gnerally De-construction before Construction  This means the personal loss of all things ­­ of past understandings, poet theologies, personal gaols, ambitions, desitres, even reputation, respect, and resource ­ of all the securities of this life and its regular patterns. (Phil 3:8 KJV  Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 9  And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10  That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 11  If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead. 12  Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. 13  Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, 14  I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. 15  Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.)

"The "architecture of the Spirit" will always de-construct before it constructs ­ it will uproot, tear down, destroy and overthrow before it builds and plants ((Jer 1:10 KJV)  See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.). As long as we are proud, secure and satisfied with our patterns and ways, we are not able to humbly  receive revelation, nor experience true intimacy with Christ by his Holy Spirit. " (Isa 57:15 KJV  For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.)

(Isa 66:2 KJV)  For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word. 3  He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. 4  I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not. 5  Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed. 6  A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompense to his enemies. 7  Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. 8  Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children. 9  Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God. 10  Rejoice ye with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all ye that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her: 11  That ye may suck, and be satisfied with the breasts of her consolations; that ye may milk out, and be delighted with the abundance of her glory. 12  For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides, and be dandled upon her knees. 13  As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem. 14  And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies. 15  For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. 16  For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. 17  They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD. 18  For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.

God still seeks to lead His people into a higher relationship with Himself;  He instituted and ordained previous temples that was to provide for His people a place where they could draw nigh to Him, so that this place would become a "house of prayer" for all nations, and a means of grace whereby the inhabitants of the earth could discover the pathway to God, the greatest Temple of the ages.  And so it was fulfilled in the Lord Jesus who declared Himself to be the Temple of God in the earth. And then He showed us, through His holy apostles and prophets, how this Temple would be expanded and enlarged to embrace those who now are the redeemed of the earth, and are part of the  "living stones" in that same Temple.

"The great heavenly "architecture himself " is calling you into a place of total, personal, complete abandonment  to God alone,  ­ a place where you are no longer in control. even  ­ into a place of brokenness and contrition of heart where God can thus build in you  a "new thing", the new city whose maker is God, the heavenly Jerusalem.

(Eph 3:14 KJV)  For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,15  Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16  That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17  That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18  May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19  And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God. 20  Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 21  Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

And when God finds His home in the hearts of all of His redeemed, He will be again at rest.
 
(John 7:24 KJV)  Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
 
One of the devil's most common method of harassment, the same devil who is the accuser of the brethren, is to send false persons, unholy, to try it detour us, the same people pretending to be our friends, claiming they are wanting to help us and are ready to give us advice as to what we should be doing.. firstly we should not be listening to any of these demon possessed persons.. or seeking, listen to their advice too
 
(2 Pet 2:9 KJV)  The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: 10  But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. 11  Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 12  But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 13  And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 14  Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15  Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16  But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. 17  These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. 18  For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. 19  While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20  For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21  For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22  But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
 
Secondly our best help comes not by listening to other people but personally daily abiding in God's word alone..  our help is still mainly not in people, books, sernons of others, tapes, videos, but in the Bible alone..

(Psa 119:41 KJV)  Let thy mercies come also unto me, O LORD, even thy salvation, according to thy word. 42  So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me: for I trust in thy word. 43  And take not the word of truth utterly out of my mouth; for I have hoped in thy judgments. 44  So shall I keep thy law continually for ever and ever. 45  And I will walk at liberty: for I seek thy precepts. 46  I will speak of thy testimonies also before kings, and will not be ashamed. 47  And I will delight myself in thy commandments, which I have loved. 48  My hands also will I lift up unto thy commandments, which I have loved; and I will meditate in thy statutes. 49  ZAIN. Remember the word unto thy servant, upon which thou hast caused me to hope. 50  This is my comfort in my affliction: for thy word hath quickened me. 51  The proud have had me greatly in derision: yet have I not declined from thy law. 52  I remembered thy judgments of old, O LORD; and have comforted myself. 53  Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law. 54  Thy statutes have been my songs in the house of my pilgrimage. 55  I have remembered thy name, O LORD, in the night, and have kept thy law. 56  This I had, because I kept thy precepts. 57  CHETH. Thou art my portion, O LORD: I have said that I would keep thy words.  58  I entreated thy favour with my whole heart: be merciful unto me according to thy word. 59  I thought on my ways, and turned my feet unto thy testimonies. 60  I made haste, and delayed not to keep thy commandments. 61  The bands of the wicked have robbed me: but I have not forgotten thy law. 62  At midnight I will rise to give thanks unto thee because of thy righteous judgments. 63  I am a companion of all them that fear thee, and of them that keep thy precepts. 64  The earth, O LORD, is full of thy mercy: teach me thy statutes. 65  TETH. Thou hast dealt well with thy servant, O LORD, according unto thy word. 66  Teach me good judgment and knowledge: for I have believed thy commandments. 67  Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word. 68  Thou art good, and doest good; teach me thy statutes. 69  The proud have forged a lie against me: but I will keep thy precepts with my whole heart. 70  Their heart is as fat as grease; but I delight in thy law. 71  It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes.  72  The law of thy mouth is better unto me than thousands of gold and silver. 73  JOD. Thy hands have made me and fashioned me: give me understanding, that I may learn thy commandments. 74  They that fear thee will be glad when they see me; because I have hoped in thy word. 75  I know, O LORD, that thy judgments are right, and that thou in faithfulness hast afflicted me. 76  Let, I pray thee, thy merciful kindness be for my comfort, according to thy word unto thy servant. 77  Let thy tender mercies come unto me, that I may live: for thy law is my delight. 78  Let the proud be ashamed; for they dealt perversely with me without a cause: but I will meditate in thy precepts.   79  Let those that fear thee turn unto me, and those that have known thy testimonies. 80  Let my heart be sound in thy statutes; that I be not ashamed. 81  CAPH. My soul fainteth for thy salvation: but I hope in thy word. 82  Mine eyes fail for thy word, saying, When wilt thou comfort me? 83  For I am become like a bottle in the smoke; yet do I not forget thy statutes. 84  How many are the days of thy servant? when wilt thou execute judgment on them that persecute me? 85  The proud have digged pits for me, which are not after thy law. 86  All thy commandments are faithful: they persecute me wrongfully; help thou me. 87  They had almost consumed me upon earth; but I forsook not thy precepts. 88  Quicken me after thy lovingkindness; so shall I keep the testimony of thy mouth. 89  LAMED. For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven. 90  Thy faithfulness is unto all generations: thou hast established the earth, and it abideth. 91  They continue this day according to thine ordinances: for all are thy servants. 92  Unless thy law had been my delights, I should then have perished in mine affliction. 93  I will never forget thy precepts: for with them thou hast quickened me. 94  I am thine, save me; for I have sought thy precepts. 95  The wicked have waited for me to destroy me: but I will consider thy testimonies. 96  I have seen an end of all perfection: but thy commandment is exceeding broad. 97  MEM. O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day. 98  Thou through thy commandments hast made me wiser than mine enemies: for they are ever with me. 99  I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation. 100  I understand more than the ancients, because I keep thy precepts. 101  I have refrained my feet from every evil way, that I might keep thy word. 102  I have not departed from thy judgments: for thou hast taught me. 103  How sweet are thy words unto my taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth! 104  Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way. 105  NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. 106  I have sworn, and I will perform it, that I will keep thy righteous judgments. 107  I am afflicted very much: quicken me, O LORD, according unto thy word. 108  Accept, I beseech thee, the freewill offerings of my mouth, O LORD, and teach me thy judgments. 109  My soul is continually in my hand: yet do I not forget thy law. 110  The wicked have laid a snare for me: yet I erred not from thy precepts. 111  Thy testimonies have I taken as an heritage for ever: for they are the rejoicing of my heart. 112  I have inclined mine heart to perform thy statutes alway, even unto the end. 113  SAMECH. I hate vain thoughts: but thy law do I love. 114  Thou art my hiding place and my shield: I hope in thy word. 115  Depart from me, ye evildoers: for I will keep the commandments of my God. 116  Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live: and let me not be ashamed of my hope. 117  Hold thou me up, and I shall be safe: and I will have respect unto thy statutes continually. 118  Thou hast trodden down all them that err from thy statutes: for their deceit is falsehood. 119  Thou puttest away all the wicked of the earth like dross: therefore I love thy testimonies.  120  My flesh trembleth for fear of thee; and I am afraid of thy judgments. 121  AIN. I have done judgment and justice: leave me not to mine oppressors. 122  Be surety for thy servant for good: let not the proud oppress me. 123  Mine eyes fail for thy salvation, and for the word of thy righteousness. 124  Deal with thy servant according unto thy mercy, and teach me thy statutes. 125  I am thy servant; give me understanding, that I may know thy testimonies. 126  It is time for thee, LORD, to work: for they have made void thy law. 127  Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold. 128  Therefore I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right; and I hate every false way. 129  PE. Thy testimonies are wonderful: therefore doth my soul keep them. 130  The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.
 
An individual had contacted me by email with obviously a phony name, of Clark Kent, claiming that he was a news reporter, who wanted to be my friend, to give me advice..  and next when I next replied that he needed to become a Christian,  to accept Christ rather firstly, he responded with unkind vulgar, swearing words at me, even lying about me too.. he thus revealed who he really was, a demon possessed person being used by the devil.
 
(Gal 2:4 KJV)  And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: 5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you. 6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person:) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:
 
(John 6:31 KJV)  Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33   For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
 
(John 6:34 KJV)  Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.
 
The Pharisees claimed that Moses  was the cause of their blessing, keeping old testament  laws, and the same liars say the same thing today.. keeping the laws was a commandment of God for the Jews but still not a means of their salvation.. personally accepting the lamb of God, Jesus  is still also their salvation
 
In reality (John 7:19 KJV)  Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
 
the false Judiazers claim that going along with the Jews cause our blessing.. even today
 
(John 1:17 KJV)  For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
(John 3:14 KJV)  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
 
Jews need to accept Jesus Christ as their savior now to be saved, otherwise they too will go to hell.
 
(John 5:46 KJV)  For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.47   But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
 
(John 9:28 KJV)  Then they reviled him, and said, Thou art his disciple; but we are Moses' disciples.
 
and if you do not go along with the Jews false religion now they will kill you like the killed Jesus Christ.
 
Like I had said one of the devil's most common method of harassment, the same devil who is the accuser of the brethren, is to send false persons, unholy, to try it detour us, the same people pretending to be our friends, claiming they are wanting to help us and are ready to give us advice as to what we should be doing.. firstly we should not be listening to any of these demon possessed persons.. or seeking, listen to their advice too
 
(John 9:35 KJV)  Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God? 36  He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him? 37  And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee. 38  And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him. 39  And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. 40  And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?  41  Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
 
(Gal 2:3 KJV)  But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised: 4  And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: 5  To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
 
Rev John Hagee I really cannot endorse him.. he is clearly a hireling, one that wants more and more money.. "These combined Scriptures verify that PROSPERITY (Genesis 12:3 and Psalm 122:6), HEALING (Luke 7:1-5) and the OUTPOURING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT came first to Gentiles that blessed the Jewish people and the nation of Israel in a practical manner." John Hagee
 
Secondly he tries to support the rebuilding of the nation of Israel.. claiming that prosperity and healing comes by supporting Israel.. there is no such commandment by God too, not  at all in the whole New Testament..
 
(Luke 7:1 KJV)  Now when he had ended all his sayings in the audience of the people, he entered into Capernaum.2  And a certain centurion's servant, who was dear unto him, was sick, and ready to die.3  And when he heard of Jesus, he sent unto him the elders of the Jews, beseeching him that he would come and heal his servant.4   And when they came to Jesus, they besought him instantly, saying, That he was worthy for whom he should do this:5 For he loveth our nation, and he hath built us a synagogue.
 
By no means of the imagination can we use this New Testament reference to  try to justify that Christians should build Jewish synagogues or rebuild the nation of Israel.. after Christ came there was no need of the Jewish synagogues as well.. rather all, all of the Christians clearly met in separate places from the Jews.
 
Rather in reality Judaism is today a false religion still, but to many Jews it is also a false idol even today  to for  they do worship their nation, culture, religion more than God, JESUS, and the HOLY SPIRIT
 
(2 Cor 6:16 KJV)  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
 
STILL  our best help basically comes not by listening to other people but personally, daily abiding in God's word alone..  our help is still not in people, their mere books, sermons, tapes, videos, but dwelling in the Bible alone .. really!!!
 
All of our Salvation, Deliverance Healing still comes to us by Jesus Christ, not by  the Jews or Moses or anything else....
 
While still even claiming to be God's chosen people, people following after God people blessed by God, the nation of Israel, almost all of it in reality  has even today still clearly turned away from God, is wrongfully doing it's own rebellious thing, and wrongfully try to justify it as well.. God is displeased at all of this and Gid is not being mocked by this as well.
 
Jer 2:20 KJV)  For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot. 21  Yet I had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me? 22  For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord GOD. 23  How canst thou say, I am not polluted, I have not gone after Baalim? see thy way in the valley, know what thou hast done: thou art a swift dromedary traversing her ways; 24  A wild ass used to the wilderness, that snuffeth up the wind at her pleasure; in her occasion who can turn her away? all they that seek her will not weary themselves; in her month they shall find her.
 

Hebrew Roots & Messianic movements distortions

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"THE DEVIL IS SLY, HE TEACHES US LIES, OR HE TAKES A SUPPOSED TRUTH AND MAKES IT AN EXTREME.. we need to be aware of his acts everywhere..  THE DEVIL IF HE CANNOT REACH US DIRECTLY WILL SEND A FALSE PERSONS NEXT TO DO IT AS WELL.. (Mat 10:17 KJV)  But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;"
 
 Please note: Research into the Hebrew Roots & Messianic movements constitutes research into Judaism as well as the occult. We fully respect each persons right to believe or utilize what resources they choose. We however, see a clear distinction in believing the Messiah has come versus utilizing resources which still await His coming. That is how and why we must evaluate all to Christ and the New Testament as well as the Tenach. We do not wish to edit or criticize Judaism, but recognize it as distinct from our Christian beliefs, just as many in Judaism also see a distinction and separateness from our beliefs, and we jointly have mutual respect for our differences and each other.
 
 There is also a false growing movement within Christianity, which contends that Christians need "to return to their Hebrew Roots."
 
 The leaders of this movement purport to be teaching believers the "Hebrew Roots of Christianity" through the study of the Jewish foundational teachings. Having been enjoined to study "Hebrew Roots", it is only reasonable that one must take a close look at the teachings of the Messianic and Hebrew Roots movements, as well as the Hebrew faith itself. 
 
"This movement is not only a cult but a racist movement, it is still a demonic attempt by Jews to promote their own self importance, their own past now false customs, false religion on others, and people who do this may be sincere but they are not followers of Jesus Christ but of the devil still.. this is undeniable"
 
We are reminded rather  in Colossians 2:6-9: "As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in Him: Rooted and built up in Him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."
 
Is the Hebrew Roots, as some might suggest, merely the study of the Old Testament, which Christians already study in light of the New Testament?
 
What do the Hebrew foundational teachings expound with regard to the New Testament, the Messiah, the divinity of Jesus Christ, the Persons or Manifestations of God, the Bible and the character of God?
 
 To embrace the Hebrew Roots theology without a full review and understanding of its teachings, would be blindness on our part and lead to ignoring the many warnings we find in the Word of God.
 
2 Timothy 3:13-17: "But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them: And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
 
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be throughly furnished unto all good works."
 
 In James 3: 17,18 we are reminded:  " But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace."
 
Scripture tells us in Matthew 12:37:  " For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."
 
John 3:20-21  "…For everyone that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."
 
James 3:13-16: "Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? Let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness and wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work."
 
Do we indeed have to become Jewish in thought and custom in order to fully understand the Word of God and be pleasing before Him? 
 
" No, Not at all, the Holy Spirit is the one who teaches us, duides us in all truth and if he does nto help you allof your study is vain anyway.."
 
 Galatians 3:26-29  "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. "
 
What of the divine inspiration of the Bible? The Scripture is sufficient in itself and considered the inerrant Word of God.
 
Many Hebrew Roots and Sacred Name advocates are falsely decrying that the name, 'Jesus Christ', is invalid, mistranslated or unacceptable for whatever reason. One has to ask which Name do these people wish us to use if not the name of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ? Which of the numerous "only Sacred Name," are we to use?
 
Would changing the name of our Savior and embracing another name become the rejection of Jesus Christ and His salvation?  It is imperative that we understand the significance of the Sacred Name issue, for
 
Scripture tells us in John 14:6,  "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
 
Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
 
Part of the Antichrist's plan to changing times and dates that we understand as truth and he is using the jews to do this still too.
 
 Ephesians 5:17: 
"Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is."
 
 Now is the time to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. "Behold now is the accepted time; behold now is the day of salvation."  2Corinthians 6:2
 
Even the Jewish people have to become personaly Christians now and to accept Jesus, not their past religions, as Jesus being their sole master, lord, savior, forsaken all of the others now too.
 
 
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